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Oct 10, 2022 at 15:38 comment added Lambie @Brandin Basically, what can be said of native speakers applies to those who are fluent in a language even though a native speaker may have "more fluency" that a fluent non-native speaker.
Oct 10, 2022 at 4:38 comment added Brandin The purpose of my comment was just to say, I think you are incorrectly conflating fluency and being native in your answer. They are two different things, and from your comment (but not your answer) it looks like we agree on that point.
Oct 7, 2022 at 18:18 comment added Lambie @Brandin You don't get it: the understanding of fluency is basically the same for native speakers. That does not mean that every fluent speaker is a native one. My point is that the characteristics I gave in my answer on ELU apply here to. There's no point arguing with me since I am an interpreter and know exactly what difference may exist between the two. But a YouTuber cannot show they are fluent speakers on their own.
Oct 7, 2022 at 17:13 comment added Brandin I've met a lot of speakers of English who are fluent in English but for which none would say English is their native tongue.
Oct 7, 2022 at 15:03 history edited Lambie CC BY-SA 4.0
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Oct 7, 2022 at 15:02 comment added Lambie @Brandin Same thing. A native speaker is fluent. And someone fluent in a language would basically have to meet almost the same criteria.
Oct 7, 2022 at 14:08 comment added Brandin The OP question was about fluency, though.
Oct 6, 2022 at 20:32 history answered Lambie CC BY-SA 4.0